From: La Voz de Aztlan <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 13:42:25 -0800
Subject: La Voz de Aztlan Response to Letter from LA County Supervisor Gloria Molina

From: La Voz de Aztlan

June 3, 2002

We are making available below a response from our publisher,  Mr. Hector Carreon, to a letter from  Los Angeles County Supervisor Gloria Molina. Gloria Molina wrote to our publisher in regards to her concerns about being labeled "antisemitic" because of her appointment of our publisher to the Los Angeles County Commission on Real Estate Management and the editorial content of La Voz de Aztlan.

There are five supervisors elected to oversee a mutli-billion dollar budget for Los Angeles County. The budget ranks among the highest in the entire globe. Gloria Molina is the only Mexican-American on the Board of Supervisors in a county where the majority of its citizens are of Mexican descent.
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La Voz de Aztlan
Los Angeles, Alta California
June 3, 2002

Gloria Molina
Supervisor, First District
County of Los Angeles

Dear Supervisor Molina:

I am in receipt of your letter dated May 31, 2002 in which you express concern that you are being viewed as an antisemite because of my appointment, in 1991, to the Real Estate Management  Commission and because I  now publish  the online news and information service, "La Voz de Aztlan".   You say several individuals confronted you because, supposedly, I have mention of this on our website.  You have been thoroughly misinformed.

It was the tabloid "New Times of Los Angeles" that published an article on January of this year making such allegations.  The writer was a "little judas" by the name of Tony Ortega. Soon after Tony's article was published, a cohort of Glenn Spencer of American Patrol, Hal Netkin published another article on his website accusing you of being antisemitic.  This is where the rumors are originating from and not from La Voz de Aztlan.  Hal Netkin's article is published at http://www.mayorno.com/MolinaCozyWithCarreon.html For your information, Hal Netkin is a vile anti-Mexican Jew that has sworn to "kick your brown ass out of office".

The only reference we have on this entire matter is our Editor-in-Chief's response to the misinformation published by New Times of Los Angeles. We have published Ernesto Cienfuegos' response at http://www.aztlan.net/newtimes.htm

I know for a fact that you have been targeted by sinister forces in Los Angeles. Be careful, the entire political game has changed since 911.  The near future holds extreme dangers for our community.

I want to thank you you for my appointment. The timing was a little too early for me to be effective. If you should have need for additional information, please let me know.

Hasta La Victoria Siempre,

Hector Carreon
Publisher
La Voz de Aztlan <http://www.aztlan.net>

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From: Hal Netkin
[email protected]

To County Supervisor Gloria Molina:

June 4, 2002

Dear Ms. Molina:

I have received via the Internet, a copy of the libelous letter of June 3, 2002, Carreon to Molina

Carreon is not only a vicious anti-Semite, but he is also a congenital liar. Firstly, I want you to know that I have never said in public or private, or implied, or thought in my head, that I would "kick your brown ass out of office" (quotation marks by Carreon).

Carreon has delusions in which he has himself believing that he is not a racist. You don't have to take my word for it. You only have to visit his website and judge for yourself. If afterwards  you agree with Carreon that I am a vile anti-Mexican, would you please explain your reasons to my Mexican wife (immigrated illegally eleven years ago  -- now a proud U.S. citizen), our three adopted Latina children, the staff at the Latin American Civic Association's Head Start Preschool where I am presently a volunteer, and to me -- anything I have posted could possibly be construed as being anti-Mexican.

I have been alarmed in recent years to hear many prominent Latinos utter divisive and/or racist words and phrases. To name a few:

Art Torres: "...Remember, 187 is the last gasp of white America..."

Jose Angel Gutierrez, Director of Mexican-American Studies Center at the University of Texas at Arlington: "...Estan cagando cabrones miedo (The bastards [whites] are shitting with fear). I love it!"

Mario Obledo, co-founder of MALDEF and winner of the 1998 Presidential Medal of Freedom: "California is going to be inhabited mostly by Hispanics. We're going to take over all the political institutions of California. In five years, we're going to be the majority population in this state. California is going to be a Hispanic state and anyone who doesn't like it should leave and well, if they (Anglos) don't like Mexicans they ought to leave. They ought to go back to Europe."

And there's your remark at the 1997 Southwest Voter Registration Education Project meeting: "Our vote is gonna be important, but I gotta tell you, there's a lot of people that are saying, I'm gonna go out there and vote because I wanna PAY THEM BACK." Tell me Ms. Molina, just who is "them?"

In my open letter to you which was copied to the other four County Supervisors and the entire Los Angeles City Council, I said that you may not be overtly anti-Semitic, but the above  racist comment you made to a crowd of Latinos at the 1997 Southwest Voter Registration Education Project rally coupled with your refusal repudiate Carreon, makes you suspect of being a passive anti-Semite racist.

Yes, my intention was to embarrass you. I can imagine the hoopla beyond simple embarrassment you would have made if I said of Hispanics, " I'm gonna go out there and vote because I wanna PAY THEM BACK.."

My anger is further exacerbated by the PC  "code of silence." Not one of your colleagues raised a finger on this issue. I asked my councilwoman Cindy Miscikowski and the entire City Council to call for a resolution condemning La Voz de Aztlan. They too took the PC code of silence.

Yes, I am acquainted with Glenn Spencer of American Patrol. So what?

It was your county employee, Randy Munoz, a county case worker who is supposed to help seniors, who sent anti-semitic hate mail to the American Patrol webmaster from his county computer on county time. When last January, I brought this to the attention of your Auditor/Controller Tyler McCaully and the entire five supervisors, the PC code of silence set in -- as of this date, Munoz still enjoyes his tax payer funded job. Had a non-Latino sent such hate male to La Voz de Aztlan, Carreon  would have had the person terminated the same day as he did a TRW employee  for sending hate mail to La Voz de Aztlan.  Carreon's criteria of what makes a person a racist is if they are Jewish and opposed to illegal immigration. Spencer fits that label because his organization has a large Jewish membership, two of Spencers daughters are married to Jews, and he is opposed to illegal immigration -- nevermind that there are also Black Americans and Latinos in the organization. [note: Munoz has since been "appropriately" reprimanded]

Go to Carreon's website <www.Aztlan.net> and tell me that it isn't anti-semitic. As Carreon, has been your subordinate at one time, as a public servant, it is your duty to voice your opposition to this man's hatred.

Do I intimidate you and all those I mention? Are you too scared to do the right thing?  I hope so, because I am going to make PC racism one of my issues in my "Hal Netkin for City Council 11" (the New Valley City) campaign <NetkinCan.com>. [note: I lost to Jamie Cordaro who is now on the Board of Directors of the Van Nuys Neighborhood Council (secession lost also)]

Since Carreon has not revealed the text of your letter to him, but has made public his libelist response to you, I am making this letter to you open to the public.

Respectfully,

Hal Netkin

P.S. The hate mail from Carrion's followers has started to flow.

CC: Hector Carreon, L.A. Board of Supervisors, Los Angeles City Council, unnamed others, and the MayorNo website.